The Country 25/07/25: Barry Soper talks to Jamie Mackay

We welcome our long-standing political correspondent back from paternal leave. A week dominated by butter-gate as Nicola and Maiki make a meal of it. Plus, we go back in time to 2004 and a long lunch with Winston, followed by the Southland Party at the Beehive.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.